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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Sep 24, 2011 10:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Quick comparison of original Europe 72 and complete set

Lou I think the China has the original vocals but the Rider has the overdubbed vocals. Jeffrey Norman said as much in this interview.

http://www.dead.net/features/news/checking-again-europe-72-mixing-engineer-jeffrey-norman

I didn't do the A-B comparison but the harmonies on the Rider are way too clean to be live.

He mentions a Jack Straw that the overdub was left in because Bob sang Jerry's lyrics or something like that.

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Sep 24, 2011 7:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Quick comparison of original Europe 72 and complete set

No one's noticed but the band's all packed and gone
Was it ever here at all?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 24, 2011 10:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Quick comparison of original Europe 72 and complete set

From the sigs of ticket sales for Furthur at the Monterey County Fairgrounds, they are long gone and NO ONE cares... Very bleak box office.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Sep 24, 2011 1:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Quick comparison of original Europe 72 and complete set

Thanks, Elbow. That would explain it, as it was indeed the vocal harmonies on Rider that had me wondering whether there was any difference between the two versions. Did you get a sense from the interview whether it was just a few occasional uses of the overdubs but that the new set is mostly the real vocals? And flubs or no, I wish they had used the real vocals throughout. They are concert recordings, after all.

EDIT: Just listened to the mp3. Fascinating that I happened to pick a pair of tracks that had some real and some overdubbed vocals. Nice to hear Norman say that whenever real vocals were still on the tapes and usable, they were used. Would be nice to get an accounting eventually of when that wasn't the case.

This post was modified by Lou Davenport on 2011-09-24 20:01:56

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Poster: Dead Surfer Date: Sep 24, 2011 3:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Quick comparison of original Europe 72 and complete set

They did the same thing with the Eyes on Without a Net. I had that 3-29-90 Nassau 1st gen tape soon after the show. When Without a Net came out I noticed first time listening to vocal harmonies on Eyes.